<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Interview with Thomas Kohnstamm</title> <atom:link href="http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/</link> <description>Nomadic Matt&#039;s Travel Site</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:01:33 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3</generator> <item><title>By: Duncan</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-125155</link> <dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 23:59:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-125155</guid> <description>I read Do Travel Writers Go To Hell? and it was highly entertaining and for me any collateral damage done to LP and &#039;the travel writing industry&#039; is par for the course. I&#039;m pretty confident 99% of LP buyers will have never heard of TK and I&#039;m sure the travel industry is no worse for his book... hopefully it&#039;s better as he actually exposed some of the realities of guide book writing (whilst, by all accounts, still turning out a decent guide). LP have raised their game a lot in the last 10 years but travelling around East Europe/Russia with one in 2002 might have been comical, in terms of the book&#039;s inaccuracy, if it didn&#039;t continually cost us time and money in traipsing after hostels and bars that didn&#039;t exist, and at one point even an international train route that had long ceased running. To skip back to my initial point I&#039;d much rather read a rip-roaring adventure involving Austrian air hostesses, failed attempts at drug dealing etc then the standard &#039;what i had for breakfast in Bali style&#039; blog post, whilst guide books of course are read purely for practical purposes... not entertainment (and anyhow are becoming increasingly redundant). Overall I don&#039;t think you can say someone who&#039;s written such a great travel novel has made a negative contribution to travel writing just because he ruffled some feathers, that probably needed ruffling anyway.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Do Travel Writers Go To Hell? and it was highly entertaining and for me any collateral damage done to LP and &#8216;the travel writing industry&#8217; is par for the course. I&#8217;m pretty confident 99% of LP buyers will have never heard of TK and I&#8217;m sure the travel industry is no worse for his book&#8230; hopefully it&#8217;s better as he actually exposed some of the realities of guide book writing (whilst, by all accounts, still turning out a decent guide). LP have raised their game a lot in the last 10 years but travelling around East Europe/Russia with one in 2002 might have been comical, in terms of the book&#8217;s inaccuracy, if it didn&#8217;t continually cost us time and money in traipsing after hostels and bars that didn&#8217;t exist, and at one point even an international train route that had long ceased running. To skip back to my initial point I&#8217;d much rather read a rip-roaring adventure involving Austrian air hostesses, failed attempts at drug dealing etc then the standard &#8216;what i had for breakfast in Bali style&#8217; blog post, whilst guide books of course are read purely for practical purposes&#8230; not entertainment (and anyhow are becoming increasingly redundant). Overall I don&#8217;t think you can say someone who&#8217;s written such a great travel novel has made a negative contribution to travel writing just because he ruffled some feathers, that probably needed ruffling anyway.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pink Sun Drops</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-10497</link> <dc:creator>Pink Sun Drops</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:11:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-10497</guid> <description>Read his interview over on Kristin&#039;s blog, Tackling the Globe, and had to come read this from the comments! I&#039;m so stoked that Thomas did or did not take his 20 second publicist&#039;s advice, but either way did not continue the banter in the comments here. Makes me want to read his book all the more!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read his interview over on Kristin&#8217;s blog, Tackling the Globe, and had to come read this from the comments! I&#8217;m so stoked that Thomas did or did not take his 20 second publicist&#8217;s advice, but either way did not continue the banter in the comments here. Makes me want to read his book all the more!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NomadicMatt</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-3328</link> <dc:creator>NomadicMatt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-3328</guid> <description>This turned into a big debate.  I&#039;ll just say that I think Thomas didn&#039;t cause any lasting hurt to the industry or profession as it really recounts his story. In the end people will buy guidebooks and will forget this whole thing and that will be that.Let&#039;s keep this discussion friendly and avoid name calling.It&#039;s been very interesting so far.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This turned into a big debate.  I&#8217;ll just say that I think Thomas didn&#8217;t cause any lasting hurt to the industry or profession as it really recounts his story. In the end people will buy guidebooks and will forget this whole thing and that will be that.</p><p>Let&#8217;s keep this discussion friendly and avoid name calling.</p><p>It&#8217;s been very interesting so far.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: laradunston</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-3141</link> <dc:creator>laradunston</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:16:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-3141</guid> <description>Thomas, I have to agree with Christine that it&#039;s not very becoming. And to clarify, I don&#039;t think you tainted the whole profession, but you certainly did some damage that I personally believe was unwarranted.And, sorry, but I&#039;m a tad too busy to look after your affairs, but obviously your publisher/publicist hasn&#039;t done the right thing by you with this book, so my advice would be that you get a good agent for the next one - especially if it&#039;s going to be anywhere near as controversial as the last one. You might want to consider Christine&#039;s offer.And you&#039;d better look up miscreant. No relation to ethics.But obviously you&#039;re referring to me. And, yes, I do have ethical issues with the way Lonely Planet operates. Which I&#039;ve raised directly with them over the years (which I started raising well before your scandal) and which I&#039;ve also openly blogged about. The best thing for LP would have been to see the lovely Wheelers downsize and take over the running of the company again. The best thing for me was to stop writing for LP and work for other publishers, which I&#039;m doing. No ethical issues so far. And I haven&#039;t come across any miscreants yet either.Yes, great interview, Matt!  Gosh, I&#039;m sorry mine was so lame by comparison :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, I have to agree with Christine that it&#8217;s not very becoming. And to clarify, I don&#8217;t think you tainted the whole profession, but you certainly did some damage that I personally believe was unwarranted.</p><p>And, sorry, but I&#8217;m a tad too busy to look after your affairs, but obviously your publisher/publicist hasn&#8217;t done the right thing by you with this book, so my advice would be that you get a good agent for the next one &#8211; especially if it&#8217;s going to be anywhere near as controversial as the last one. You might want to consider Christine&#8217;s offer.</p><p>And you&#8217;d better look up miscreant. No relation to ethics.</p><p>But obviously you&#8217;re referring to me. And, yes, I do have ethical issues with the way Lonely Planet operates. Which I&#8217;ve raised directly with them over the years (which I started raising well before your scandal) and which I&#8217;ve also openly blogged about. The best thing for LP would have been to see the lovely Wheelers downsize and take over the running of the company again. The best thing for me was to stop writing for LP and work for other publishers, which I&#8217;m doing. No ethical issues so far. And I haven&#8217;t come across any miscreants yet either.</p><p>Yes, great interview, Matt!  Gosh, I&#8217;m sorry mine was so lame by comparison <img src="http://www.nomadicmatt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?4c9b33" alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christine Gilbert</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-3119</link> <dc:creator>Christine Gilbert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:14:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-3119</guid> <description>Thomas,I will be your new publicist for the next 20 seconds.  Don&#039;t bother getting into fights in blog comments.  As much as you want to defend yourself, it doesn&#039;t help.The interview covered it, people are going to trash you or love you, and at the end of the day, you have a new book coming out and in a few years someone will write a book about how Travel Agents, not Guidebooks are evil, and everyone will jump to the Next Big Thing.  Wasn&#039;t there a couple of other travel writer memoirs that came out this year?  Did they wreck the industry too?Speaking as your publicist (for 5 more seconds) stay out the fray.  The internet echo chamber is bad, but authors who overly defend themselves are worse.  Is it guilt?  Control?  Insecurity?   The need for guidance from a wise publicist (me)?Of course, it&#039;s amusing to read, and we love to get someone who will take the bait, but don&#039;t do it!  That is all.  Your invoice is in the mail.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,</p><p>I will be your new publicist for the next 20 seconds.  Don&#8217;t bother getting into fights in blog comments.  As much as you want to defend yourself, it doesn&#8217;t help.</p><p>The interview covered it, people are going to trash you or love you, and at the end of the day, you have a new book coming out and in a few years someone will write a book about how Travel Agents, not Guidebooks are evil, and everyone will jump to the Next Big Thing.  Wasn&#8217;t there a couple of other travel writer memoirs that came out this year?  Did they wreck the industry too?</p><p>Speaking as your publicist (for 5 more seconds) stay out the fray.  The internet echo chamber is bad, but authors who overly defend themselves are worse.  Is it guilt?  Control?  Insecurity?   The need for guidance from a wise publicist (me)?</p><p>Of course, it&#8217;s amusing to read, and we love to get someone who will take the bait, but don&#8217;t do it!  That is all.  Your invoice is in the mail.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: A. Wannabe Travelwriter</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-3107</link> <dc:creator>A. Wannabe Travelwriter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:14:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-3107</guid> <description>“Thomas Kohnstamm writes that Loney Planet guidebooks are subjective (and somewhat arbitrary).”How is that for quoting out of context?  Kohnstamm certainly did NOT make that statement, but those words are somewhere in his interview.  This type of miss-reporting is done every day, and worse, when you have media that is clearly bent towards whatever value or political end their corporate sponsors support, some of what you read or hear are gross fabrications or even outright lies.I have to agree with Kohnstamm’s view of the media.  I was once told you don’t have a battle of words with people who buy ink by the 55 gallon drum.Matt – you have a great interview technique. Please keep them coming.  (I will have an interview with Tim Cahill on my site within the next couple of days.  I just spent four days with Tim in Marin County, CA.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Thomas Kohnstamm writes that Loney Planet guidebooks are subjective (and somewhat arbitrary).”</p><p>How is that for quoting out of context?  Kohnstamm certainly did NOT make that statement, but those words are somewhere in his interview.  This type of miss-reporting is done every day, and worse, when you have media that is clearly bent towards whatever value or political end their corporate sponsors support, some of what you read or hear are gross fabrications or even outright lies.</p><p>I have to agree with Kohnstamm’s view of the media.  I was once told you don’t have a battle of words with people who buy ink by the 55 gallon drum.</p><p>Matt – you have a great interview technique. Please keep them coming.  (I will have an interview with Tim Cahill on my site within the next couple of days.  I just spent four days with Tim in Marin County, CA.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: thomas kohnstamm</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-3065</link> <dc:creator>thomas kohnstamm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-3065</guid> <description>Claiming that I tainted the whole profession of travel writing is about as hyperbolic as saying that publishers are trolling blogs and actively fighting untruths on them.If you believe my book could have such a massive impact or if you know how to get a publisher to dedicate so much time and so many resources to my books, I would very much like you to be my new agent. Screw it, I&#039;d like you to be my editor, publisher and publicist too.Together we&#039;ll make millions and return truth to the media.ps lone miscreant? you&#039;ve never had any ethical issues with a major guidebook publisher?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claiming that I tainted the whole profession of travel writing is about as hyperbolic as saying that publishers are trolling blogs and actively fighting untruths on them.</p><p>If you believe my book could have such a massive impact or if you know how to get a publisher to dedicate so much time and so many resources to my books, I would very much like you to be my new agent. Screw it, I&#8217;d like you to be my editor, publisher and publicist too.</p><p>Together we&#8217;ll make millions and return truth to the media.</p><p>ps lone miscreant? you&#8217;ve never had any ethical issues with a major guidebook publisher?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NomadicMatt</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-3051</link> <dc:creator>NomadicMatt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:42:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-3051</guid> <description>This is an interesting discussion going on. It seems we all have strong opinions about this.  I think there are many ways you can look at this scandal but I don&#039;t think this will have an long term impact on guidebook sales or the industry. This will all be forgotten eventually....But, I&#039;m enjoying the comments. Hopefully the gloves won&#039;t come off too much!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting discussion going on. It seems we all have strong opinions about this.  I think there are many ways you can look at this scandal but I don&#8217;t think this will have an long term impact on guidebook sales or the industry. This will all be forgotten eventually&#8230;.</p><p>But, I&#8217;m enjoying the comments. Hopefully the gloves won&#8217;t come off too much!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: laradunston</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-3048</link> <dc:creator>laradunston</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:54:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-3048</guid> <description>Thomas, you obviously don&#039;t appreciate how sophisticated web monitoring, marcomm and PR has become. Multimillion dollar organizations, such as publishers like Random House, employ web-/blog-monitoring companies (and thousands of them exist) to first of all crawl cyberspace (blogs included) to see what&#039;s being said &#039;out there&#039; about their brand or on a particular topic/issue, and then pay the companies to fight or challenge the chatter. They people to respond to comments to protect their brand and products. It&#039;s done each and every day across the sphere, as bloggers like Matt would know, because we get contacted frequently by individuals making comments who are hired by companies to protect their brand/products.Your Churchhill quote belongs back in those days of &quot;limited media&quot;. As does the method you used (interviews) to quash the chatter.Random House would have known that. It&#039;s by no means impossible to fight a story such as that which occurred. Indeed it&#039;s very easy if you&#039;re willing to put the resources toward it. Next time there&#039;s a similar controversy that you&#039;re not a part of, sit back and see how it plays out in both the traditional and new media spheres. To say it&#039;s impossible to challenge the chatter is what is naive.Judging by your comments here, my guess is that perhaps Random House&#039;s PR machine was, sadly, taking advantage of you to let the story play out and increase sales. Or maybe not. Maybe they&#039;re not as well-oiled, as you&#039;re suggesting (or were you referring to Lonely Planet?). But you shouldn&#039;t lump all publishing houses together, that&#039;s a bit harsh. I&#039;ve been working with publishers for over 20 years and they&#039;re not all as unsophisticated as you like to make out. Or perhaps I should see that statement as an expression of the same naivety you accuse me of.All publishers - including Random House - care about all of their books, and the press they get (and therefore how they sell). Even the small books. Because, as you&#039;d know, it&#039;s the small books, i.e. the small investments, that lend themselves to reaping the biggest returns if they could be so lucky as to attract the kind of controversy and column inches your book did.The timing was lucky, or unlucky, depending on how you look at it - occurring at a time when, from what I&#039;ve heard, disgruntled Lonely Planet staff and writers were venting frustrations and leaking to the press. I&#039;m guessing you&#039;re quoting author Jeanne Oliver&#039;s leaked email about you that appeared in the press.Still, regardless of how you want to defend yourself, it&#039;s still sad for professional travel writers to see their profession tainted in the way it has been by one miscreant.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, you obviously don&#8217;t appreciate how sophisticated web monitoring, marcomm and PR has become. Multimillion dollar organizations, such as publishers like Random House, employ web-/blog-monitoring companies (and thousands of them exist) to first of all crawl cyberspace (blogs included) to see what&#8217;s being said &#8216;out there&#8217; about their brand or on a particular topic/issue, and then pay the companies to fight or challenge the chatter. They people to respond to comments to protect their brand and products. It&#8217;s done each and every day across the sphere, as bloggers like Matt would know, because we get contacted frequently by individuals making comments who are hired by companies to protect their brand/products.</p><p>Your Churchhill quote belongs back in those days of &#8220;limited media&#8221;. As does the method you used (interviews) to quash the chatter.</p><p>Random House would have known that. It&#8217;s by no means impossible to fight a story such as that which occurred. Indeed it&#8217;s very easy if you&#8217;re willing to put the resources toward it. Next time there&#8217;s a similar controversy that you&#8217;re not a part of, sit back and see how it plays out in both the traditional and new media spheres. To say it&#8217;s impossible to challenge the chatter is what is naive.</p><p>Judging by your comments here, my guess is that perhaps Random House&#8217;s PR machine was, sadly, taking advantage of you to let the story play out and increase sales. Or maybe not. Maybe they&#8217;re not as well-oiled, as you&#8217;re suggesting (or were you referring to Lonely Planet?). But you shouldn&#8217;t lump all publishing houses together, that&#8217;s a bit harsh. I&#8217;ve been working with publishers for over 20 years and they&#8217;re not all as unsophisticated as you like to make out.<br /> Or perhaps I should see that statement as an expression of the same naivety you accuse me of.</p><p>All publishers &#8211; including Random House &#8211; care about all of their books, and the press they get (and therefore how they sell). Even the small books. Because, as you&#8217;d know, it&#8217;s the small books, i.e. the small investments, that lend themselves to reaping the biggest returns if they could be so lucky as to attract the kind of controversy and column inches your book did.</p><p>The timing was lucky, or unlucky, depending on how you look at it &#8211; occurring at a time when, from what I&#8217;ve heard, disgruntled Lonely Planet staff and writers were venting frustrations and leaking to the press. I&#8217;m guessing you&#8217;re quoting author Jeanne Oliver&#8217;s leaked email about you that appeared in the press.</p><p>Still, regardless of how you want to defend yourself, it&#8217;s still sad for professional travel writers to see their profession tainted in the way it has been by one miscreant.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark H</title><link>http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/interview-with-thomas-kohnstamm/#comment-3029</link> <dc:creator>Mark H</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:29:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=215#comment-3029</guid> <description>It was good that this guy got to speak for himself, but I can&#039;t help but think that he didn&#039;t have much to say, speaking in very vague terms. In my view, it hasn&#039;t done Lonely Planet any harm at all (just some extra publicity) and I doubt it has changed the view of guidebooks in most people&#039;s eyes - those that like them will still use them.Well done to get such an interview.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was good that this guy got to speak for himself, but I can&#8217;t help but think that he didn&#8217;t have much to say, speaking in very vague terms. In my view, it hasn&#8217;t done Lonely Planet any harm at all (just some extra publicity) and I doubt it has changed the view of guidebooks in most people&#8217;s eyes &#8211; those that like them will still use them.</p><p>Well done to get such an interview.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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